SEGMENTER NOTES
Note: This guideline is true for almost all hardsubbed videos!
For almost all hardsubbed videos, it is always best to segment according to voice and hardsub, but when that is not possible, then segment by the hardsubs. The segment should start with the voice and then just follow how long the hardsubs stays on the screen...usually segments is best by every line of hardsub or it can be up to 2 lines because the dialogue is too fast.
Usually the Chinese hardsubs are timed perfectly in the video with almost all no voice segments eliminated by prolonging of the Chinese hardsubs, so all segmenters need to do is segment by following the timing of the hardsubs. If segmenters segment following only the voice, the timing for the segments of the hardsubs will be off, which is really not good for the viewers. So please tell all segmenters this guideline for hardsubbed videos.
I am telling you this because when I was subbing and editing, many segmenters are segmenting according to voice only, and their segments are perfect for voice segments. But it was not good because there is still time remaining on the video screen where the Chinese hardsubs are still showing, but no English subs to match it because the voice segmenters cut no voice segments when there are no voice. Usually, because of the prolonged Chinese hardsubs, many no voice segments are not needed. Only case when no voice segments need to be cut is when the actors are not talking for a long time. I hope you can understand what I mean here. Just ask me if you have any questions. THANKS!!!
- Segmenters & Subbers: During prolong no voice segments, please add:
Subtitles ~ Team Summer's Desire ~ ViiKii.Net- Please do not exceed more than 5 of those in a 1 part video and DO NOT add it when it will really distract from the video!!!
- And if you sub even one line of translations, please read Translation Notes below.
Segmenters: If you are interested in learning autosegmenting, please read these 2 topics to help you. And if you need help with questions...I guess I can direct you to some autosegmenters who can help you.
What is automatized segmenting?
It is a method that enables you to segment any video with hardsubbed subtitle without having to spend more than 10 minutes in front of your computer.
The principe is to let a software detect the hardsubbed subtitles, record the time of apparition and disparition and create a softsub from it. Then from this softsub, create a segment file that you can upload to viikii. ~ Pom45i
This one might be missing some steps
http://www.viikii.net/my/page/Pom45I#TOPIC/527
This one might be more detailed and easier to understand
http://www.wxfs.org/guides/HowtoRiptheTimingandEnglishSubsFromanAVIfileUsingAviSubDetector.pdf
http://www.viikii.net/my/page/Pom45I#TOPIC/527
This one might be more detailed and easier to understand
http://www.wxfs.org/guides/HowtoRiptheTimingandEnglishSubsFromanAVIfileUsingAviSubDetector.pdf
TRANSLATION NOTES
Subbers, please use proper punctuation marks, grammar and standardized names for all translations. This is the best guideline we have for now. If you can think of better ones or anything else to improve our subs, please reply to the Translations Notes. THANKS!!!
Great Channel to learn Chinese and any languages you want!
If you are proficient in any languages, please contribute to our language Basic 1. Thank You!!!
Great site to assist you in subbing and learning Chinese: http://usa.mdbg.net/
(be careful of difficult sentences & certain pinyin as this site is not perfect)
It is great with translations, correct Chinese character writing, and pronunciations too.
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For each sentence PLEASE use appropriate punctuation marks such as .,!?
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Please do use CAPS for names, titles and beginning of each new sentences.
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When the sentence ends. Please use one space and then start the next sentence.
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Example: I love you. I hate you.
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If the sentence fades please use 3 periods ... with no spaces. But if the sentence ends after 3 periods, please do use 1 space.
- Example: I love you...but I... Forget it!
- If sentence is the character's thoughts, please use parenthese ( )
- Example: I love you...but I... Forget it! (I am so not going to say it.)
- Use of for song lyrics. Example
"I Remember I Once Loved" by Peter Ho - Use of
- Do use
before the start of each sentence if subs are too high or too low, basically use your best judgment in using
to provide the best visual settings for all watchers.
itself can also be used to fill up an empty segment. DO NOT use a period "." to fill up a segment, use
or do #8. - PLEASE PLEASE do not put
if positioning of English subs block any of the hardsubs. I (and many language learners) need to see the hardsubs so I can learn and improve my language skills. When I QC, I will remove
if they are not needed. I hope that is ok with everyone?
is used in the middle of a long sentence to break it up because it is just too long to fit on the screen. It depends on the subs & video length & pace, but it usually means you need to adjust the timing to prolong subs. If the following dialogue after the long sentene is too fast, it might not be good to use it.
used at the end of a sentence actually stop the subs from staying on screen til the next sub comes up. It is really better NOT to use it. The only way you would use
in the end of a sentence is to time the next seg/sub perfectly, but then you need to be a perfect timer. I haven't learn how to do that yet. Let me know if anyone discover this perfect timing method.
- Do use
- Do adjust timing if subs requires it.
- Example: Long sentences; if there is enough time between the next sentence, please prolong the timing by holding down CTRL key and press DOWN ARROW key repeatedly until correct time is reached. Press CTRL & UP ARROW key to shorten the segment.
- To delete a sub that is not needed. Click on the "!" triangle and click on the trash can/delete button and then just click save.
- To leave a subber a comment in the subbed pop up box, click on the number next to the subber's name and you can click on "+" sign of the subber you want to leave the comment for.
- Segmenters & Subbers:~ During prolong no voice segments, please add:
- Subtitles ~ Team Summer's Desire ~ ViiKii.Net
- Please do not exceed more than 5 of those in a 1 part video and DO NOT add it when it will really distract from the video!!!
NEW UPDATE!!! ~ Posted by Blanc ~ July 5
1) When the Chinese hardsubs have it.
2) When the current sentence is not able to finish before a new one starts. For example, when the speaker trailed off
A: "I..." Pause "I'm sorry."
Or when the sentence is interrupted and wasn't able to finish
A: "I..."
B: "Stop! Don't say it!"
If the sentence is complete then there should not be three periods but just one, put at the end. Do not use ... when there's just a pause between the segments. Just leave the first segment blank or put a comma, if appropriate. For example:
A: "I just"
Pause
A: "don't see the point."
This is so it can match with the Chinese subs and provide accuracy for our viewers.
Details
Title: 泡沫之夏 / Pao Mo Zhi Xia
English title: Summer's Desire
Genre: Romance
Broadcast network: FTV
Broadcast period: 2010-May
Synopsis
Xia Mo and Luo Xi were orphans living at the same foster home. They became close friends after Luo Xi saved Xia Mo from an embarrassing situation at a singing competition. However, Luo Xi fell for Xia Mo. On the other hand, Ou Chen, a young master from a rich family, was deeply in love with Xia Mo, so he deliberately separate those two by sending Luo Xi to England.
5 years later, Luo Xi came back as a superstar with tons of fans, while Xia Mo was newly signed by a record label. Just when they met, Ou Chen lost his memory.
PM Blanc to be on the team!
New names, please comment so I can update the list.
Cast:
Information in [ ] Please Do Not Use as Subs
Barbie Xu as Yin Xia Mo 尹夏沫
Huang Xiao Ming as Luo Xi 洛熙
Peter Ho as Ou Chen 歐辰
Canti Lau as Xia Ying Bo 夏英柏
Shen Jian Hong (沈建宏) as Yin Cheng 尹澄
Chang Kuo Chu as Xi Meng 西蒙 as Ou Chen's Personal Caretaker
Patina Lin as Shen Qiang 沈薔
Ke Huan Ru as Pan Nan 潘楠
Serena Fang (房思瑜) as Jiang Zhen En 江珍恩
Maggie Wu as An Hui Ni 安卉妮
Yang Han (楊瀚) as Ling Hao 凌浩
Coco Jiang as Wei An 薇安
Huang Yi as Luo Xi's mother
Chen Chen (晨辰) as Jie Ni
Deng Ning (邓宁) as A Sen
Zhao Shun as Yi's father
Ying Cai Ling (應采靈) as Yi's mother
Zhang Ke Fan (張克帆) as Jam
Lin Mei Xiu as Cai Na 彩娜
Qi Wei (戚薇) as Ou Chen's fake girlfriend
Irene Xu
Daisy 黛茜[Dai Qian]
Wei Yin 魏茵
Ke Xin 可欣
Company Names:
Information in [ ] Please Do Not Use as Subs
Ou Organization
Hong Ou Company 虹歐公司 [Rainbow European Company]
Xing Dian 星點
Sun Company
Ou Hua Sheng 歐華盛演藝經紀公司
[Ou Hua Sheng Performing Arts Managing Incorporated ~ full name will be used only once at the beginnig of ep5 part5, please use shorten form thereafter]
Ou Hua
Subsidiary Corp.
歐華盛子公司 [Ou Hua Sheng Subsidiary Corporation
~ full name will be used only once at the beginnig of ep7 part1, please use shorten form thereafter
]
Extra Information: (put " " only for the first appearance, thereafter do not use " " for show titles)
"Pure Love Song" ~ Xia Mo &
S
Ling Hao's
how
"Battle Flags" ~ Luo Xi's Show
"Golden Dance"
~
黄金舞
Xia Mo's Show
"The World's Big Event" ~
天下盛世
Luo Xi's Show
Production Credits
Original writing (novel): Pao Mo Zhi Xiao (泡沫之夏) by Ming Xiao Xi
Producer: Peter Ho
Director: Jiang Feng Hong
Trivia
This drama is adapted from a trilogy penned by popular novelist Ming Xiao Xi from China.
Information from:
Pictures from
dramaluv911 ~ Thank You So Much For Sharing These^^
Please put
in front of your subs!!!
in front of your subs!!!
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